Antigravity

topic posted Mon, March 26, 2007 - 3:27 AM by 
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I was wondering if anyone had the pulse of the guy who built an antigravity machine up in Seattle? They interviewed him for a piece on Discovery but it was really brief. He had a technology demonstrator in his warehouse that was a triangle about two feet on a side and only attached by a thin power line. The thing fucking lifted off silently and they talked about ions. That's all I can remember. They DO have an ion-engine on a spacecraft headed out to like Uranus or Neptune right now, but that's different. ....anyway, who is that dude?

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  • Re: Antigravity

    Mon, March 26, 2007 - 10:59 AM
    Not sure if it's the same dude. I saw a little documentary years ago of an inventor I think from Vancouver who had his apartment filled with experiments. While the film crew was there a sponge was seen "taking off" -- there are claims this might have been a hoax. Besides that wierdness, the documentary was interesting because the inventor showed simple low to no cost ways to create useful devices. I remember him showing a battery made of rocks. (Perhaps, a cruder version of this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaic_pile )
    I did write the inventor's name down but it is in a paper journal far away. Memory being what it is. I think his last name started with an H or an L.
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    Mon, April 30, 2007 - 11:07 PM
    youre talking about lifters... it's not one guy, anyone can do them... often university students and faculty use them as projects.

    to me i dont consider it antigravity, simply because it requires a cord connected to a power supply on the ground. put in a self contained power supply then itd be much more awesome. it's still really cool though

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionocraft
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      Tue, May 1, 2007 - 7:48 PM
      I'd classify it more as thrust, but it's a capacitive thrust we don't entirely understand yet so it's still pretty interesting. Kozyrev did similar experiments, but his surface areas of the plates were even. Even he saw a slight decrease in weight when the positive end was on the bottom of the rig.
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        Thu, May 3, 2007 - 1:44 PM
        i don’t remember the name of the man, but i do remember the experimentation and demonstration of the device... made of mostly army surplus stuff...

        he created a field in which he set a glass of water and a bowling ball... he powered up the field and the objects started to slowly lift and tumble in the field, with spectators and skeptics present. this test was repeatable in his lab using any object provided...

        the result were very strange and could not be reproduced using any known methods...

        ...this had nothing to do with the ionic devices mentioned...
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          Re: Antigravity

          Thu, May 3, 2007 - 2:32 PM
          Yeah! John Hutchinson. His videos are still under fire - people swear they see strings attached, I don't see them. But your right, nobody has replicated the Hutchinson Effect, either, so who knows - someone even claims he filmed it upside down with an electromagnet. A lot of serious researchers of antigravity go through this though - Hal Puthoff's under fire, just as Prigogine is for claiming that a sudden sharp gradient can violate the second law of thermodynamics. Kozyrev's experiments were replicated in the United States, however. So there's definitely some validity to some of these claims.
          • Re: Antigravity

            Thu, May 3, 2007 - 3:10 PM
            Yeah, that's the dude! John Hutchinson.

            I appreciate you posting.
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              Re: Antigravity

              Sat, May 5, 2007 - 12:19 AM
              Hey, no problem. I'm glad to contribute, and I appreciate the appreciation.
              Back to the lifters, I found these linked on one of Beatty's sites: www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp and www.markwilson.com/ioncraft...raft.html
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                Sat, June 16, 2007 - 4:01 AM
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                  Sat, June 16, 2007 - 12:29 PM
                  Is that the wind, or is that one rigged for precision propulsion? It looks like it's kind of maneuvering about, but I can't tell if it's that or if it was just blown around a bit.
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                    Sun, June 17, 2007 - 1:59 AM
                    i cant tell... itd be cool if they can maneuver, i wasnt aware lifters could do that.
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                      Sun, June 17, 2007 - 8:54 AM
                      Well, I don't know that they can yet - that's why I've been keeping an eye on it - but, I know Naudin and others have been talking about it as a possibility. I guess you could separate the circuit itself, maybe half each side and keep the sides separate as well, parallel the voltage through a box of circuits to variate the voltage, It might work. You could automate it with a joystick, too. That MIGHT work.
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                  Sun, June 17, 2007 - 12:11 AM
                  I'm pretty sure this is the same craft that was put on Myth Busters; they put it in a vacuum and it didn't float at all.
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                    Sun, June 17, 2007 - 8:45 AM
                    It is - but ... that's Mythbusters. Especially if Adam puts the thing together.
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                      Sun, June 17, 2007 - 9:04 AM
                      I guess I shouldn't put it that way - I should be more specific. Kozyrev saw this lift with an even-sized plates capacitor - the weight went down when the positive plate was facing up, and the weight went up when the positive plate was facing down - this variated with the amount of voltage. Now, quite a few of his experiments were done successfully in the U.S. as well - I don't know if this is one of them or not, but I can check for you. But all things being equal, I'd be more prone to call for a second attempt on the part of Adam and Jamie. If, however, the Mythbusters followed all proper protocol - then fine, it's thrust, not anti-gravity (which is what I said in the first place, see above) - doesn't mean it's not worthy of further investigation.

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